Comments on: Summit Unchained Series Batch 03

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:54:36 +0000

Maybe there’s so many RIS’s on the top of the list because they are so f**kin’ awesome! (palate wrecker be damned!)

By: al

al — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:33:21 +0000

Interesting argument here. Mainly, SFletty arguing with himself, or not understanding when he’s made his point and we get it, but doesn’t catch on yet. Okay, you think pilsners are better than imperial stouts…and you don’t write reviews on those websites, so…???

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Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:31:48 +0000

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Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:42:33 +0000

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By: Kyle

Kyle — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:12:01 +0000

Ok Fletty, I’ll bite. Why are they under-represented?

By: SFletty

SFletty — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:26:15 +0000

Kyle-

You said: “crux of your argument is that someone else’s preference is inferior to yours”

Which is not my claim at all.

I’m arguing that RIS and big beers are not better beers in general, that they’re over represented in those moronic ranking sites, and that the ranking sites are useless at best and at worst propagate misperceptions and stupidity.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:07:39 +0000

I think you’ve got some things confused here.

1) No one on BA or RB is doing BJCP sheets for these beers. Did you forget that the style guidelines are _descriptive_ not _prescriptive? Commercial beer defines the guidelines, not the other way around.
2) Who are you to say they’re not being evaluated on their own merits? Any beer can make it to the top 100.(there’s a pils on there). Big beers are over-represented because these are the styles that people like to drink and evaluate. (see above wrt preference).
3)”Also, I did not say I was a superior beer judge” Neither did I. Where did this come from?

By: SFletty

SFletty — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:12:48 +0000

Oopps…should read: If a beer is evaluated to it’s style, then any beer should be able to score in the top tier, and not just a particular style.

By: SFletty

SFletty — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:10:56 +0000

Wow, Kyle. You’ve got it all wrong.

My personal preference for a balanced beer has nothing to do with my argument that the beer ranking sites can’t rank a beer on it’s own merit.

As I stated, if a beer is evaluated to it’s style than any beer should be able to score in the top tier, and not just a particular style.

Also, I did not say I was a superior beer judge, just that the beer ranking sites are skewed and useless.

If you’d like to respond to the argument I made rather than engaging in personal attacks, please feel free to do so.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:55:53 +0000

Fletty: your subtlety wanking is no different than BAtards getting all a spoogey about Dark Lord. Your “incredible pils malt flavor” is their “dried dark fruits.”

“It had incredible pils malt flavor, was crisp enjoyable and eminently quaffable. I’d chose a beer like that any day over a big cloying palate wrecker of a RIS.”
Yeah, I’d take a Darkness over a DMS ridden american light lager. Let’s compare apples to apples.

And crap man, let’s take a step back here and remember that the crux of your argument is that someone else’s preference is inferior to yours. Jesus. You’re arguing about beer here. About what someone else likes even!