Comments on: Surly wants to know what YOU think http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/ MNBeer.com focuses on Minnesotabeer, brewpubs, breweries, homebrew and all things related to beer in Minnesota. Your source for information about beer in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul and beyond. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:11:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: ??????? http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-72834 ??????? Wed, 27 May 2009 01:53:09 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-72834 ?????????? ???????. ??????? ??? ???? ? ????????. ?? ? ?????? ????? ?????? ????????? ??????? ?????????? ? ???????? ??????, ??????? ????? ????????? ?? ????. ?? ??????????? ??? ?????, ????? ????????? ??????????. ???? ??????, ????? ????? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????, ? ??? ??????, ????? ???? ???????????, ? ?????, ? ??? ?????, ????? ??????? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???????. ??, ??? ?? ???? ??????? – ???????? ????. ?????????? ???????. ??????? ??? ???? ? ????????. ?? ? ?????? ????? ?????? ????????? ??????? ?????????? ? ???????? ??????, ??????? ????? ????????? ?? ????. ?? ??????????? ??? ?????, ????? ????????? ??????????. ???? ??????, ????? ????? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????, ? ??? ??????, ????? ???? ???????????, ? ?????, ? ??? ?????, ????? ??????? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???????. ??, ??? ?? ???? ??????? – ???????? ????.

]]> By: Katie http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-66048 Katie Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:11:10 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-66048 Ceramic's likely more expensive, but less dangerous in the event of breakery. Or, how about redesigning recycling containers to make them more cup-friendly--I'm thinking 5' tall cup-sized transparent cylinders that you drop your cup down and add to a stack. That way they're visually reminding folks to put beer cups (and only beer cups) inside and thus encourage recycling, and save space via the re-stacking of the cups. I'm a visionary. Ceramic’s likely more expensive, but less dangerous in the event of breakery.
Or, how about redesigning recycling containers to make them more cup-friendly–I’m thinking 5′ tall cup-sized transparent cylinders that you drop your cup down and add to a stack. That way they’re visually reminding folks to put beer cups (and only beer cups) inside and thus encourage recycling, and save space via the re-stacking of the cups. I’m a visionary.

]]> By: jf http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-65902 jf Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:44:38 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-65902 It's a good thought, but just go for a reusable glass. Of course, if you choose plastic it will need to be BPA free. :) It’s a good thought, but just go for a reusable glass. Of course, if you choose plastic it will need to be BPA free. :)

]]> By: beery http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-65900 beery Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:24:43 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-65900 lol I'm sure that the chinese are going to make a special trip with the cargo ship to bring the "not really decomposable" cups to the US so they're ready for the Surly event if Omar orders them. Some ship is coming to our shores filled with sh*t from China either way. Whether or not some cups get thrown in the cargo bin ain't making any difference for the enviornment. This whole discussion is a prime example of doing things that make you feel better about yourself (and allow you to preach from your high horse) rather than making any difference that really matters. (but I do appreciate Omar at least thinking about the issue.) lol

I’m sure that the chinese are going to make a special trip with the cargo ship to bring the “not really decomposable” cups to the US so they’re ready for the Surly event if Omar orders them.

Some ship is coming to our shores filled with sh*t from China either way. Whether or not some cups get thrown in the cargo bin ain’t making any difference for the enviornment. This whole discussion is a prime example of doing things that make you feel better about yourself (and allow you to preach from your high horse) rather than making any difference that really matters.

(but I do appreciate Omar at least thinking about the issue.)

]]> By: Eric http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-65889 Eric Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:50:04 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-65889 Landfills are sealed with massive amounts of rubber, so even if you put decomposable materials in a landfill, the only place they'll break down and stay is in the landfill. Go glass! Landfills are sealed with massive amounts of rubber, so even if you put decomposable materials in a landfill, the only place they’ll break down and stay is in the landfill. Go glass!

]]> By: Juno http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-65879 Juno Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:09:44 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-65879 Just a thought and there are reasons why it won't logistically work and no Surly logo but: What about bringing your own cup? I've got a 5 liter boot that..... Just a thought and there are reasons why it won’t logistically work and no Surly logo but:

What about bringing your own cup?

I’ve got a 5 liter boot that…..

]]> By: Andy s http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-65877 Andy s Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:29:12 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-65877 dbrewing...that is an awesome answer, made me laugh dbrewing…that is an awesome answer, made me laugh

]]> By: Mark Snyder http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-65876 Mark Snyder Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:27:20 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-65876 The only way it helps to use the compostable cups is if you take the extra step to make sure they actually get composted. If they are put with other trash, then they will get burned in an incinerator or buried in a landfill like that other trash and will not actually become compost. Contact an organization like Eureka Recycling (http://www.eurekarecycling.org/) to learn how to set up a waste-free event and you will not only ensure that your cups get composted, but also stuff like food waste, paper plates, napkins and other items that are compostable will get composted, too. Eureka Recycling also works with a number of Surly retailers through their Make Dirt, Not Waste program (http://www.makedirtnotwaste.org/). The only way it helps to use the compostable cups is if you take the extra step to make sure they actually get composted. If they are put with other trash, then they will get burned in an incinerator or buried in a landfill like that other trash and will not actually become compost.

Contact an organization like Eureka Recycling (http://www.eurekarecycling.org/) to learn how to set up a waste-free event and you will not only ensure that your cups get composted, but also stuff like food waste, paper plates, napkins and other items that are compostable will get composted, too. Eureka Recycling also works with a number of Surly retailers through their Make Dirt, Not Waste program (http://www.makedirtnotwaste.org/).

]]> By: Jen http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-65875 Jen Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:51:43 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-65875 Has anyone actually used the corn-based cups? I've used the plates, and if you store them for any extended period of time, they tend to warp and develop a giant "bubble" on the surface (covers about half the plate). I don't mind it personally, but if you're purchasing in bulk, it's an issue to consider. Has anyone actually used the corn-based cups? I’ve used the plates, and if you store them for any extended period of time, they tend to warp and develop a giant “bubble” on the surface (covers about half the plate).

I don’t mind it personally, but if you’re purchasing in bulk, it’s an issue to consider.

]]> By: Ben http://mnbeer.com/2009/03/09/surly-wants-to-know-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-65867 Ben Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:33:24 +0000 http://mnbeer.com/?p=1637#comment-65867 WisconsinBeer is right. Decomposition doesn't take place in most landfills. Everything is packed down tight with as much air as possible removed which stops decomposition from taking place. Even getting "eco-cups" isn't really a solution (unless you're willing to compost them yourself, maybe send them off to a brewery with a hop/grain field), it just makes you feel better about yourself. WisconsinBeer is right. Decomposition doesn’t take place in most landfills. Everything is packed down tight with as much air as possible removed which stops decomposition from taking place. Even getting “eco-cups” isn’t really a solution (unless you’re willing to compost them yourself, maybe send them off to a brewery with a hop/grain field), it just makes you feel better about yourself.

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