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	<title>Comments on: Nice Honors for Surly in Beer Advocate Magazine</title>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://mnbeer.com/2007/06/13/nice-honors-for-surly-in-beer-advocate-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-19490</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;m &quot;Bucko&quot; on BA. I promise I&#039;ve never reviewed a beer before tasting it.... that and I suck at beer reviews...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m &#8220;Bucko&#8221; on BA. I promise I&#8217;ve never reviewed a beer before tasting it&#8230;. that and I suck at beer reviews&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Williamson</title>
		<link>http://mnbeer.com/2007/06/13/nice-honors-for-surly-in-beer-advocate-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-19454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for quoting me but I think I have been miss quoted. While Bucko did post a rating on BA before the offical release he did have it at Winterfest which was before the release. I did tell a story of a CA brewery that made up a beer and leaked info to see what would happen and how they recieved ratings for a beer that didn&#039;t exist. BA and RB are great forums for people to express their opinions about beers.

Cheers! 

Jeff Williamson
Flat Earth Brewing Company</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for quoting me but I think I have been miss quoted. While Bucko did post a rating on BA before the offical release he did have it at Winterfest which was before the release. I did tell a story of a CA brewery that made up a beer and leaked info to see what would happen and how they recieved ratings for a beer that didn&#8217;t exist. BA and RB are great forums for people to express their opinions about beers.</p>
<p>Cheers! </p>
<p>Jeff Williamson<br />
Flat Earth Brewing Company</p>
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		<title>By: S. Fantome</title>
		<link>http://mnbeer.com/2007/06/13/nice-honors-for-surly-in-beer-advocate-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-14953</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Fantome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What does that have to do with anything??????&quot;

The point was anyone can say anything without regard to the, shall we say, truthiness of the situation. Take the rah-rah, pro-war no-truth-zone over on the Fox Propaganda Network, for example.

Or the MSM that didn&#039;t stand up to the fear mongering of tghe Bushies.

Or some arbitrary web site with a bunch of clowns rating beers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What does that have to do with anything??????&#8221;</p>
<p>The point was anyone can say anything without regard to the, shall we say, truthiness of the situation. Take the rah-rah, pro-war no-truth-zone over on the Fox Propaganda Network, for example.</p>
<p>Or the MSM that didn&#8217;t stand up to the fear mongering of tghe Bushies.</p>
<p>Or some arbitrary web site with a bunch of clowns rating beers.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://mnbeer.com/2007/06/13/nice-honors-for-surly-in-beer-advocate-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-14947</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lager?  A lager?  Brother, don&#039;t you know that the future is beers made with 100% Brettanomyces Lambicus and FWH with Summit hops?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lager?  A lager?  Brother, don&#8217;t you know that the future is beers made with 100% Brettanomyces Lambicus and FWH with Summit hops?</p>
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		<title>By: David Berg</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are funny.  Any list that ranks anything will always have people arguing.  I&#039;d bet you all are taking it more seriously than Omar, Todd, and company.

Hey, and if someone had to be #1, it&#039;s pretty cool that it&#039;s a Minnesota brewery.  I know for a fact that Todd has put in his time in the industry, and as far as I&#039;m concerned always made great beers.  So while Surly may be new, Todd&#039;s been kicking around longer than I, so I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s about 12-13 years.

Ok, off my soapbox, back to making lagers and other beers that people hate ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are funny.  Any list that ranks anything will always have people arguing.  I&#8217;d bet you all are taking it more seriously than Omar, Todd, and company.</p>
<p>Hey, and if someone had to be #1, it&#8217;s pretty cool that it&#8217;s a Minnesota brewery.  I know for a fact that Todd has put in his time in the industry, and as far as I&#8217;m concerned always made great beers.  So while Surly may be new, Todd&#8217;s been kicking around longer than I, so I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s about 12-13 years.</p>
<p>Ok, off my soapbox, back to making lagers and other beers that people hate ;^)</p>
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		<title>By: S. Fantome</title>
		<link>http://mnbeer.com/2007/06/13/nice-honors-for-surly-in-beer-advocate-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-14890</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Fantome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong. i&#039;ve got some Surly Cynic in the fridge at home. I just wouldn&#039;t put them #1.

I was talking to Jeff Williamson of Flat Earth a while back and he told me a revealing story about the BA/RB crowd.

Jeff read a review of his Flat  Earth pale ale on one of those sites BEFORE the beer had been released or was available anywhere. There was no possible way that the person who reviewed the Flat Earth beer could have had access to the beer yet.

I guess I&#039;d call that making shit up. Or outright lying on line to seem cool.

I think that&#039;s just pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. i&#8217;ve got some Surly Cynic in the fridge at home. I just wouldn&#8217;t put them #1.</p>
<p>I was talking to Jeff Williamson of Flat Earth a while back and he told me a revealing story about the BA/RB crowd.</p>
<p>Jeff read a review of his Flat  Earth pale ale on one of those sites BEFORE the beer had been released or was available anywhere. There was no possible way that the person who reviewed the Flat Earth beer could have had access to the beer yet.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;d call that making shit up. Or outright lying on line to seem cool.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s just pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or Surly makes something that the afore-mentioned cattle believe makes Surly appear to have &#039;sold out&#039;.

Which is fine in my book, as it&#039;ll just mean it&#039;ll be easier to get their beer, which is generally excellent...if overhopped at times.  (see &#039;Fest, Surly&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or Surly makes something that the afore-mentioned cattle believe makes Surly appear to have &#8216;sold out&#8217;.</p>
<p>Which is fine in my book, as it&#8217;ll just mean it&#8217;ll be easier to get their beer, which is generally excellent&#8230;if overhopped at times.  (see &#8216;Fest, Surly&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: S. Fantome</title>
		<link>http://mnbeer.com/2007/06/13/nice-honors-for-surly-in-beer-advocate-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-14879</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Fantome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty funny to see all the Surly Fanboys with their undies in a bundle.

Face it, any moron can post a review on line. Most of the reviews on BA and RB are at best laughable in their sensory and flavor descriptors.

Surly is #1 until the BA and RB cattle find a brewery that produces only 1 beer that you can only get at the brewery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty funny to see all the Surly Fanboys with their undies in a bundle.</p>
<p>Face it, any moron can post a review on line. Most of the reviews on BA and RB are at best laughable in their sensory and flavor descriptors.</p>
<p>Surly is #1 until the BA and RB cattle find a brewery that produces only 1 beer that you can only get at the brewery.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://mnbeer.com/2007/06/13/nice-honors-for-surly-in-beer-advocate-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-14869</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems we hit a nerve there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems we hit a nerve there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben has a good point. Wouldnt people on BA and RB ALWAYS lean towards big flavors???? A brewer that does nothing but lagers and shit beer isnt going to get high ratings. Surly routes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben has a good point. Wouldnt people on BA and RB ALWAYS lean towards big flavors???? A brewer that does nothing but lagers and shit beer isnt going to get high ratings. Surly routes!</p>
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